Mistral Large 4: "Le Chonk"

(mistral.ai)

407 points | by j-bu 2 hours ago

26 comments

  • xpct 1 hour ago
    I don't know why, but I personally find Mistral's marketing strategy much more appealing than that of other companies.

    For example, there's something about Anthropic's picked design and their little Claude avatars that's unsettling to me.

    • booty 49 minutes ago
      Sans context, I really like the Anthropic and Claude's faux-academic, minimal-ish, intellectual-ish branding.

      (Especially the way it looked ~12 months ago -- it's gotten more cluttered since then. Perhaps unavoidably, as the breadth of their offerings has grown)

      But over time it's begun to feel like unsettling cognitive dissonance as their ambitions grow and the stuff to worry about has piled up.

    • isoprophlex 51 minutes ago
      The logo isnt a stylized butthole. That sure helps endear me to them.
    • fidotron 1 hour ago
      The entire Anthropic branding is religious kitsch - deeply off putting, but apparently quite reflective of their reality.
    • walrus01 1 hour ago
      I think there's such a thing as throwing too many marketing and sales people and too much polishing and "refinement" at something. I see in new product announcements from Microsoft as well. It's like seeing someone try too hard to impress you.
      • InsideOutSanta 23 minutes ago
        They've polished all personality out of their companies.
    • oytis 1 hour ago
      And their cookie banner. Never thought I would like a cookie banner
    • YeahThisIsMe 14 minutes ago
      I do my best to avoid any AI marketing because I extremely despise it. I just haven't quite decided on my new profession, yet, but it's either going to be with plants or with animals.
  • duiker101 7 minutes ago
    The main thing I always get away from the comparison tables of these "big" models, is how well Deepseek v4.1 Flash performs. While still being the cheapest model by a long shot.
  • vessenes 1 hour ago
    Very nice progress. Also I respect putting Kimi on those charts. Regardless of if they are beating the Pareto frontier (not now), model diversity is a good thing for humanity — I’m hopeful for the team to keep increasing their gains.
  • danslo 1 hour ago
    Open weight, European, competes with GLM-5.3 on cybersecurity. What's not to like?
    • Culonavirus 21 minutes ago
      It's French, duh. They'll probably surrender half of the company to the Germans after receiving a strongly (compound-)worded letter.
  • chevman 2 hours ago
    This is awesome, one of the coolest Pokemon ever too for those that don't follow that universe :)

    https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Lechonk_(Pok%C3%A9mo...

    • maelito 39 minutes ago
      Was wondering what Le Chonk meant (not French).
      • sofixa 1 minute ago
        It's a joke, chonky is used to refer to fat cats, and there was a joke meme over the summer that Mistral are going to release a new model, Le Chaton Fat (chaton is kitten in French). The name is a nod to the memes.
  • DevKoala 50 minutes ago
    One step closer to Le Chaton Fat.
    • PoignardAzur 7 minutes ago
      Can't wait until Mistral starts adopting fancy product line names.

      Soon we'll have Mistral 6 Chaton, Mistral 6 Guépard, Mistral 6 Tigre, Mistral 6 Dents-de-sabre, Mistral 6 Beast King, etc.

  • bartstp 1 hour ago
    How could I resist switching to a model named after my cat!?
    • laserbeam 1 hour ago
      Stats be damned irrelevant. The naming is good with this one!
    • volkk 39 minutes ago
      you and 10k other redditors
  • rglover 1 hour ago
    Excited to try this. The low costs v. benchmarks alone here are worth a serious test. K3 has been my daily driver for a month or two now and it's dramatically reduced token spend (while not having much of a negative impact on productivity).

    This was the era of the AI race I was waiting for.

    • netvarun 1 hour ago
      Curious now that SOL is cheaper than k3 - is k3 still your primary workhorse?
  • amelius 1 hour ago
  • juliennakache 35 minutes ago
    Is that a reference to LeChuck in Monkey Island? Love that game!
  • aennassiri 1 hour ago
    Excited to see this! Nice that they are saying this is just a first step.

    Give them more compute!

  • timcobb 1 hour ago
    > Trained from scratch

    How are they training without pirating the Z library corpus and all that?

    • sigmar 29 minutes ago
      I interpret "scratch" to mean brand new weights. Not that they aren't training on a corpus of human text
  • taspeotis 2 hours ago
    • stronglikedan 1 hour ago
      Of course not. That's clearly a different URL.
  • maz1b 1 hour ago
    I'm glad they're keeping at it!
  • spwa4 2 hours ago
    Don't believe Mistral. They're wrong. It's really called "Le chaton fat".

    Also 1T-A49B. Weights currently closed but promise to open source them by the end of the month.

    Great release movie.

    • alterom 2 hours ago
      >Don't believe Mistral. They're wrong. It's really called "Le chaton fat".

      OpenAI's therapist: Le Chaton Fat isn't real and cannot hurt you

      Le Chaton Fat:

  • tosh 2 hours ago
    sorting the charts like that gives off weird vibes
    • jasonjmcghee 1 hour ago
      Had the same thought - feels chart crime adjacent
    • lern_too_spel 1 hour ago
      Bar charts should start at zero. If they don't start at zero, there should be a clear visual indicator that the chart has been trimmed without having to read the axis labels. I hate that this has to be repeated so often that it has become a cliché.
  • plastic-enjoyer 1 hour ago
    We are so back
  • redanddead 1 hour ago
    better than K3 and DS4, cool
  • ChrisArchitect 1 hour ago
  • Razengan 1 hour ago
    Awh I was half expecting a zombie pirate..
  • theturtletalks 1 hour ago
    A bit disappointing to see it still lagging behind Chinese open models. Those Chinese models are pushing proprietary models to raise the bar, but we need equally strong non-Chinese open models to challenge the Chinese ones in turn.
  • clavicle1009 2 hours ago
    YES finally
  • baggachipz 2 hours ago
    Now THAT'S how you name a model. Take note, others.
  • __natty__ 1 hour ago
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  • catlover76 1 hour ago
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  • sinan-faizal 1 hour ago
    i subbmitted a partnership proposal in your contact.