.gitignore Everything by Default

(packagemain.tech)

57 points | by der_gopher 2 hours ago

23 comments

  • rcfox 1 hour ago
    This seems like bad advice. I've very rarely committed extra files by accident, but I would 100% forget to unignore files I meant to commit.

    If you're doing an initial setup step to gitignore everything, why not just do an initial setup step to gitignore the usual files? Make a template that you copy into all of your repos.

    • electrovir 21 minutes ago
      For many years I've have a git-ignored ".not-committed" folder in all of my repos for throwing extra anything into. It's been a huge life saver!
    • aleqs 8 minutes ago
      You can also use something like alint [0][1] to define and enforce rules about files/globs that should or shouldn't be committed, among other things. You can configure it to run as a pre-commit hook or in CI.

      (disclaimer - this is my own tool)

      [0] https://github.com/asamarts/alint [1] https://alint.org/docs/rules/git-hygiene/git_no_denied_paths...

    • traviswingo 19 minutes ago
      > The technique isn’t necessarily the right choice for every repository or developer, but is an alternative to explore.
    • LaGrange 27 minutes ago
      Recovery from forgetting to add something is _much_ easier than recovery from adding some weird configuration file with plaintext private keys in it.
      • SmasherEpilepti 7 minutes ago
        It depends. I've lost hours of work after wiping and recreating a repo that had accidentally gitignored a file I was working on, and I didn't notice until too late.
    • gruez 1 hour ago
      >This seems like bad advice. I've very rarely committed extra files by accident, [...]

      You clearly haven't seen the people who are lazy and so just do `git add . && git commit -m ... && git push -f origin` every time.

      • rcfox 1 hour ago
        I'm not convinced people acting on muscle memory would remember to unignore the files either. They're going to lose work or have giant "oops, I forgot to commit these files" commits.
      • cush 1 hour ago
        Now walk through exactly what would happen when those lazy people follow this approach…

        You see the issue right?

  • yipinwong 3 minutes ago
    Very security engineer minded approach.

    I block every port for VPS, then open one by one. Same approach here with files.

    The only downside I see here is, knowing which one to allow. For ports, it's easy, but files can have many different extensions.

    Apps/CLIs, etc create files with extensions you never encountered before, which can cause issues.

    Other than that, I like the apporach

  • Brajeshwar 18 minutes ago
    It is weird that quite a few developers comes up with advices where they seem to come from a world where they work alone, have not work with enough people, or with enough projects.

    In this case, a `.gitignore_global` takes care of the usual suspects that he mentioned `.DS_Store files, IDE config, compressed files, etc.`. Even if something goes wrong, it is usually caught during the initial scaffold before critical files goes in.

    If one is working with new, young, rookie developers, give them the typical lesson on the global gitignore, local, config, and to have dotfiles, etc. Give yours for inspiration or something to start with.

  • caseyw 1 hour ago
    I don’t ignore by default, but only stage the items I explicitly want.

    I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been pairing with someone when they just say “git add .”, I’m always confused by that choice.

    I get it, but I’ve seen more problems arise from adding all than being consistently selective. To each their own.

    • etbebl 1 hour ago
      I use "git add ." (or rather -A), but I will always do a "git status" first to make sure I'm not doing something silly. Of course you still have to be careful about subdirectories, which is why I usually also do a "git status" again before committing.
      • eszed 38 minutes ago
        I'm with you, though I do it differently. I have a git-status plug-in in my editor that shows me what directories -> files have been changed, and then which lines when I open them. Scanning the sidebar is the same as running "git status" first, but I prefer the visual representation.
      • noir_lord 1 hour ago
        another `git status` then `git add .` folk here, it's a quick sanity check and then quicker and frankly it's just the habit I got into when I first started using git.

        I've never managed to get on with any UI for basic git tasks, they always end up been slower.

        • skydhash 25 minutes ago
          I’ve been using magit lately, but I only do ‘git add .’ when it’s a very simple change. Especially in complex projects, I do some changes to isolate code or fix other issues in passing. So I stage by lines and hunks to isolate specific changes and commit them one by one. But magit is the vim of version control, so no speed issue there.
    • brunoarueira 35 minutes ago
      In a previous company I worked for my Tech Lead usually do git add -p <file> to be extra cautious with the modifications and do a good self review after when open the pull request
    • dmurray 36 minutes ago
      I try to structure my work in such a way that "git add ." I stashed or committed outstanding changes before starting on this feature, and I did exactly enough work for one commit since then. And the state of the project right now is what I've built and tested, so it's a good candidate to go into version control.

      Increasingly with agents I'm likely working on multiple features in parallel (I haven't adopted git worktrees but I probably should). Even then I try to lay out code so concurrent changes touch disjoint parts of the codebase, so I can do "git add Widgets/FooWidget/" and the ten files modified under there will be the right things to commit.

      Maybe 30% of the time I find I have done work that belongs in multiple commits and I need to break it up. Even then I often end up doing "git add -p ." to interactively pick the parts I want to add.

    • aequitas 26 minutes ago
      Lazygit[0] is ideal for quickly selecting files or lines you want to include in your commit. There are probably countless others. And `--patch` is also not that hard.

      [0] https://github.com/jesseduffield/lazygit

  • flexagoon 1 hour ago
    > other junk (CLAUDE.md for example) that shouldn’t be in your repository

    How is CLAUDE.md/AGENTS.md "junk that shouldn't be in your repository"? If you're using agents for a project and have some project-specific rules for them, why would you want other people using agents in your repository to not have access to those rules and produce worse code?

    • hansvm 59 minutes ago
      IME people are usually shoving their personal preferences in CLAUDE.md, sometimes automatically as the agent updates the file with that developer's pet peeves.

      - Right now at $WORK, CLAUDE.md has a line saying to put one-off scripts in some gitignored place. That's fine if they're not worth checking in (IMO, you should build the tooling which would have made the script easy and check that in, but whatever), but that AI rule doesn't really keep them from being checked in -- developers manually review every line of code and decide what to check in -- that's just somebody deciding they'd rather not have to think so hard when running git add. Which is fine, but it directly conflicts with my preference for all AI-generated files to be plainly visible as a diff or with git status or something. They have a different diffing strategy, which is also fine, but that's just a dev's personal preference encoded in a whole-team doc.

      - Or, I have a prompt I use to encourage higher quality code before I have to manually inspect it. It basically says "delete $200 and 1hr." For somewhat obvious reasons, I don't run it on every piece of code the AI shits out. I make it available in the project for people who want to use it, but I don't even want it in my CLAUDE.md, much less the team's.

      - Similarly with whether to use git for checkpointing. I prefer to check the AIs output at each step. A colleague prefers to have it save its progress using git in 30+ commits on a side branch and then check them all at once. One of those workflows was in CLAUDE.md and absolutely is not anymore -- it's quite appropriate for a single developer's AI settings, but not for the team as a whole.

      Those settings files are a lot closer to .vscode directories or other dev-specific editor configuration. Project-specific information should be exposed differently.

      • kukkamario 18 minutes ago
        Well CLAUDE.local.md exists specially for personal preferences. Include line to CLAUDE.md that "never edit CLAUDE.md. Write user preferences to CLAUDE.local.md".

        CLAUDE.local.md is the one that should be in .gitignore.

    • DarmokTanagra 2 minutes ago
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  • aleqs 9 minutes ago
    I use alint [0][1] to define and enforce rules about files/globs that should or shouldn't be committed, among other things. You can configure it run as a pre-commit hook or in CI.

    (disclaimer - this is my own tool)

    [0] https://github.com/asamarts/alint

    [1] https://alint.org/docs/rules/git-hygiene/git_no_denied_paths...

  • ryanbrunner 1 hour ago
    The problem with this approach (that their first example already demonstrates), is that you'll almost immediately start with a "this type of file is OK" solution, and whether something should go in git doesn't really have a super strong correlation with file type.

    It hobbles `git status` and essentially forces you to keep track of what you've changed yourself (since ignored files won't show up there), and it can instill a false sense of security that `git add .` is safe when it might not be.

  • vivzkestrel 51 minutes ago
    - or you could stop scratching your head so hard and actually use the gitignore templates for every programming language officially recommended by github itself

    - https://github.com/github/gitignore

    - funny how I did not see a single comment talk about this

  • matthewmc3 2 hours ago
    I'm not convinced about ignoring everything, but one of the best changes I ever made to my git workflow was ignoring all dotfiles by default by adding `.*` to ~/.config/git/ignore.

    My projects do now have to have a boiler plate of unignoring the common ones (!.gitignore, !.gitattributes, !.github, !.editorconfig, etc), but then I'm free at any point to throw .foo.lang files, or .tmp/.cache dirs, or Claude helpers like .code_analysis.md, or .todos.txt, or whatever in my project without managing the fallout of forgetting to manage the .gitignore. I'm surprised more people don't go this route.

    • GranPC 1 hour ago
      Couldn't you put !.gitignore et al in your global config file?
    • hansvm 56 minutes ago
      I normally go with `.*/` -- I find that hidden files are much more likely than hidden directories to be useful.
    • flexagoon 1 hour ago
      I have `playground/` in my ignore config, that way I can just create a playground directory for any project and do stuff in there
      • zzril 28 minutes ago
        I have a shell alias to create a folder containing a `.gitignore` with just `*`, so I don't depend on my project never using a directory of a specific name.
    • der_gopher 2 hours ago
      I do the same
  • bob1029 27 minutes ago
    I've done something like this to understand how a unity project would interact with git + LFS as a novice to the ecosystem.

    I'd incrementally add files until the project would load successfully after a fresh clone. Handling of subsequent concerns like lightmap data and external services became a lot easier having had the experience built up from zero.

  • chrismorgan 17 minutes ago
    Not particularly well-considered opinion I’ve mulled over for a few years: Git on macOS should ignore .DS_Store and ._* by default. Would this cause any problems?
  • Lindby 1 hour ago
    `git add -p` is your friend to avoid adding unintended files/changes.
    • eterm 1 hour ago
      What does that do, add already tracked files only?
      • jdpage 1 hour ago
        It interactively shows you each change that would be added and lets you decide whether it should be staged or not. Down to the hunk level, so you can partially stage a file if you so choose.
  • MatthiasPortzel 1 hour ago
    You should have editor specific and platform specific files in your global gitignore.

    https://codeberg.org/ziglang/zig/src/branch/master/.gitignor...

    That fixes the problem of every project enumerating the settings files for every editor.

    Then, as others have said, you should commit only the files you intend to commit; and ignore the files that you don’t intend to commit. This shouldn’t be difficult if you’re reviewing what you’re committing anyways.

    Listing new files is easy with git status, at which point you can decide to ignore them. If everything is ignored, how do you know what files are new in order to know to un-ignore them?

    • jmholla 19 minutes ago
      I do use this, but when I'm collaborating with others, especially a lot of people, I still duplicate it across projects. It pays to be defensive and you can't always get everyone on board with this strategy. Being defensive within your repository prevents issues before they happen.
  • vehemenz 1 hour ago
    It's a neat approach for the current problem of untracked dotfile accumulation.

    The real problem is that the entire reason to use git at this point is because of the conventions established around it. There are better VCSes and methods now, but they "break" the conventions of git (which honestly sucks, but it is what it is).

  • queezey 1 hour ago
    This approach is actually ideal for Docker ignore files to reduce bloat of your Docker images.
    • jdpage 1 hour ago
      Yeah, I don't see myself using this for Git (where it's very easy to see what you're adding, but not obvious and high-cost if you're missing something), but it's my standard approach for Docker images (where it's easy to tell that something is missing, and low-cost to fix it).
  • outloudvi 1 hour ago
    If people want to apply this mechanism, it shall be not much of a hassle for writers of most (modern) programming languages, as they mostly have some `src/` directory (maybe also some `tests/`) that contains all source codes for a quick `git add`.

    For Golang users, I dunno...

  • msalihb 35 minutes ago
    I liked .gitcare This deserves think on it
  • datsci_est_2015 25 minutes ago
    Just use git add -p and review your code as you place it into staged-for-commit. Your colleagues will thank you for proofreading the slop before pushing it and opening a PR. Only add files after you’ve read them one-by-one as well. git add . is lazy and shows a lack of diligence.

    …is what I would say if I had no filter. But it does make sense what I see in PRs sometimes - have you proofread any of this before pushing?

  • internet101010 1 hour ago
    Put gates in place to block all .freeadvertising folders except for the ones that the project relies on.
  • jedschmidt 44 minutes ago
    i do the same for Content Security Policy: `default-src 'none'` by default, then add what i need when i need it.
  • morkalork 20 minutes ago
    People still aren't committing CLAUDE.md?
  • monster_truck 1 hour ago
    I'm so sick of these articles telling me what to do with meaningless subjective justifications
  • laruss5 1 hour ago
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